1978 trojan F36 rear cabin cover.

[dfg4240]

I want a cover like thishttp://www.flickr.com/photos/94817356@N02/.
I know it was custom made but do they sell rear cabin covers for this boat.
can you make one yourself-I imagine the stitching would be a bear.
The boat will be on the seneca river in a couple of weeks and has anyone in that area had a canvas made for their boat.
Any idea what one like this would cost?-It won't be cheap.
dfg4240

[Commissionpoint]

Yeh. Camper canvas like that would be expensive to make for sure. That being said, there are plenty of qualified canvas shops out there who can do it for you very nicely. I have a guy here who is excellent, so I would imagine you should have no trouble finding the guy by you that everyone goes to.

I'd figure 3 grand would be the low side of things if you had to make a decent one of those from scratch using professional help.

[dfg4240]

OK thanks
I will start looking-not many advertized though-only see one for boat canvas but I will ask at the Marina

[Commissionpoint]

Village Canvas Shop
Route 9N
Lake George, NY 12845

He will travel if you aren't satisfied locally.

[lawyerdave71]

Yup, this is on my wish list too. It would be so nice but the Price is $3k to $5k.

[dfg4240]

Do you fellows think it is worth it.
It looks beautiful but I think you could sleep at night on the rear deck or what ever and have the sliding doors open for the air conditioning? also for sitting out at night bug free?

[lawyerdave71]

OH YES

I think it would be worth it. No bugs. Nice and dry. Extend the boating season. Protect the aft deck.

Only bad thing - the cost! HA HA HA

[captainmaniac]

You will never be bug free and odds are you won't be dry (with the ladder to the flybridge you are pretty much guaranteed some water in, but the additional protected space will extend your use of the boat, allow you to sit out in colder or wet weather, and potentially expand sleeping accommodations (on my folks boat years ago we did a couple of trips with extra people aboard, who slept in sleeping bags on the cockpit floor). If the enclosure is made right, side and back panels should all be able to be zipped out. The entire enclosure should also be easily removable (or rollable - kind of like your bimini) for when you want a fully open cockpit. Screens should be mounted on the outside so you can open / close the isinglass portions from inside the boat without having to step outside.

There is usually a debate about how the isinglass should zip and roll - does it roll up from the bottom or down from the top when you open the windows? If you go with rolling up things will either be open or closed. If you go with rolling down, you can have things open to any degree you want them to be.

Go with stainless framing, not aluminum, as the aluminum won't hold up.

Also remember this : adding an enclosure increases your windage. In cross winds or wind on the transom, you now have a lot more surface area or a 'funnel' to collect the wind and will get pushed around a bit more than before, so low speed maneuvering will be a bit more challenging. Better to know and realize that now than spend thousands and then be hit with the surprise! The enclosure will also reduce visibility a bit.

Re the flybridge ladder : I have seen a couple of enclosures that integrated the enclosure and flybridge enclosure in a way to avoid leaks... Normally the enclosure is notched or cut out to go around the ladder framing. On these boats the cover stopped short of the ladder and the back end of the bridge enclosure zipped directly to the aft deck enclosure - creating a 'tunnel'. You could climb the ladder from below to the bridge in wet conditions without ever being exposed. Great idea, but probably adds another $1-2K to the cost.

[75 Tri Cabin]

We have done one of those, when we owned our Silverton. We did a passageway from the bridge to the cockpit, to keep it weather tight. You need to use at least 1" stainless for the frame and fittings. The other major concern is exhaust fumes when running. They do and will find their way in the boat while running. This is the reason most manufacturers shy away from rear enclosures. The price range is 3 to 5K depending on what you want and who does it. It does add a great space for parties at the dock and just relaxing. We are in the process of doing the same on our Tri Cabin now. One other thing is handling lines and having to get to the bow when coming in to the dock, with the enclosure up, can be a task.

[1967 seavoyager]

Bring it to J & S Marine, Seneca river buoy 287. We have the best canvas guy in the state. 315-622-1095 Marina 315-391-3428 Chris's cell # No dockage charges while your boat is being worked on. www.jsmarinejim.com tell them you heard about it on trojanboats.net

[dfg4240]

I did get a quote of around $3400 but he would have to measure to be sure.
I don't like the fumes creeping in part. Never even thought about it. Anyway I have time on my side.
thanks for the tips.

[captainmaniac]

I don't like the fumes creeping in part. Never even thought about it.

Fumes are always a possibility, with the enclosure or not. It's called the 'station wagon effect'. You always need to keep some kind of positive ventilation while underway - leave a forward hatch open a crack to take in air and have it blow / vent through the cabin and out the back, so you don't have a negative pressure zone in the cockpit or inner cabin area. If you are taking spray and can't open a hatch, crack a leeward window open a bit.

[1967 seavoyager]

Since you're on Cayuga Lake & don't appear to be coming to Liverpool, Try Mahaney Canvas at Beacon Bay Marina. Ask for Willis or Tim.