Rear Cabin Enclosure

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Beaniepittbull
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Rear Cabin Enclosure

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Alright Guys;
Since the Weather is upon us, meaning getting Nippy at least for us Yankee's here in the Northeast, if you see my boat she is missing the Rear Aft Cabin Enclosure, it looks like orig. she had in Plexiglass or Panels in where the rails are like a basic motor Yacht.
This open area, I want to convert this area to a covered 'porch'
Stummped ?
Here is the Moral;,
I told you i'm new at this, I'm working on my First Skipper Merit Badge :roll: ,
I want to Enclose the Aft Cabin, now what do i call this procedure and what and where do i look for said ?

Do i call this Aft Cabin Closure with Side Curtains ?
Do i buy these curtains in Panel Pieces and use snaps to hold them down.
Or do i buy curtain panels that tie to the rails and tie some how to the Hard top ?

HELPPPPPPPPPPPP :shock:
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Beanie
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Post by aaronbocknek »

he beanie, actually what i think you want to do is enclose the aft deck... normally, it is an ''aft deck enclosure" some actually use real doors on the side then curtains or a plexi glass/lexan enclosure on the stern, and port and starboard side. then again, some use roll up canvas with camper screens and plastic''glass'' that can be rolled up and secured with lift dots. it all depends on how many ''shekels" you want to spend. let any of us know if we can be of assistance.
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You find a good canvas guy and get a qoute ( get more then 1) then you get you fellings hurt . I just had my flybrige Enclosure done $4000.00
do not go with cheap windows make sure the "glass " is 40 mills you can get 20 mill but you wont be able to see thru it in a year or so .
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i agree with paul .... get several quotes and make sure the ''eisenglass'' is of a good quality and thickness. any good canvas guy will have samples and a portfolio of work that he has done. do not be afraid to ask other people in the marina and do not hesitate to ask for references. the guy that did the aft curtain on my f-32 was amazing from start to finish and even had to tweek the design a few times, taking it back to his shop, until he felt it was correct. i got 3 quotes, and to be honest, scott did come in under them all but the work and craftsmanship is spot on and he stands behind his work. that is the type of shop you should be selecting.... make sure they stand behind their work no matter what.
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good morning the best canvas guy to go to for this is Gioia Sails in Lakewood New Jersey . He was originally on City Island and did the canvas for the Trojan factory . He may even still have the original patterns for your 42. I see your on City Island . City Island yacht sales just just north of the bridge was a big Trojan Dealer there and was owned by the La Scala brothers I think one of them is still handling the yard . By the way for the Trojan owners within 75 miles of Lakewood n.j. Don Gioia really is the best canvas guy around. He does most of the work for the bigger Sea Ray factory Yachts as well as the interior upholstry for them . He also does the work for other yacht manufacturers.
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Post by Peter »

one more opinion...[ Everybody's got one]

I recently had a complete fly bridge enclosure manufactured, as well as an aft deck enclosure. I would suggest you use'strataglass'. This is a see-through roll up-able type of" issenglass". It is made by laminating two layers of 20 mill plastic together and covering with a protective coating, and is a high-quality product.

Obviously as indicated, you need to find a dependable, and talented canvas person, they will come to the boat, see what it is you want, and make suggestions on design.

I used a light tan sunbrella fabric. Pick something light as it will be cooler in the summer, but definitely not white as this really shows the dirt [ as well as bird and spider poop].

You want to build as much flexibility in terms of function into the design as you can. Usually the issenglass windows will zip open, and have the ability to be rolled up and left open. This works well, however repeated rolling them up over time will cause little scratches. You have a hard top. Fasteners are available that can be put on the bottom corners of the windows, so that the windows can be open and fastened to the top ceiling of the hard top,[without being rolled up] saving on scratches.

You may want to consider screens built in to the canvas project to keep the bugs out. I have them on my aft enclosure and they have worked out very very well.

Suggest you have the same fasteners at the corner of each canvas section, so the whole canvas section can be unsnapped at the bottom, then snapped to the hard top as well, so you can basically take the canvas off without having to store it somewhere [again scratching the issenglass]. Part of the canvas job is usually to make storage bags so if you do take the canvas completely off, it can be rolled up and stored....

You may also want to, at the same time, have matching covers made for any bow hatches, and your windshield to cut down on UV damage to the interior, increase your privacy, and cool the boat somewhat when you're not there. [When it's 95° out, the interior of your boat will be baking hot, most marine as frown on leaving the A/C on when the boat is not occupied.

Take your time figuring out exactly what you want, as you're going to have to live with it for the next 10 years or so unless you have money to burn. One of these days, I will figure out how to post pictures, [instead of just reading the posts about how to do it] and post some pictures.
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Post by jddens »

Lots of good opinions here. I have full camper back canvas on my F30. The top is fairly permanent but all the windows and corners zip out and can be removed or replaced with zip in screens. It is nice to have the option to totally remove the enclosure. It takes about 5 minutes and really opens things up.......it also makes a great sun room when the temps are down, heats up nice with a little sunlight...........John
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Post by duchess »

I agree with the comment about Strtoglass I ve had it on my enclosure for 5 years and its still clear. Of course I m a little anal about caring for it and only use the Inmar products which Goia had recommended.
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Post by jddens »

while we're on this subject, what is the proper way to care for eisenglass.......i have been wiping it down with a wet cotton towel and then drying it with a dry one.............something tells me there must be a better way....???...............John
1972 Trojan Sea Raider F30 - FI 350's "Time Warp"
1998 Kawasaki ZXi 1100
1972 Chevy Fleetside Shortbed hotrod.......450hp
10.5 Newport Inflatable w/15hp Rude
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