Trojan 9M - New Owner

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Welcome aboard. Nice boat.
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Can you show us pics of the tops of the rudder posts?
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foofer b wrote:Can you show us pics of the tops of the rudder posts?
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There's not much to see, but I'll take a picture and post it up.

The swim platform is fiberglass with teak inserts. In order to get to the rudder posts, you would need to remove the teak. Under the teak, there are access panels that would get you right to the top of the rudder posts. I'm thinking that there are bushings but no need for a stuffing box - it's all open. There is a bellows around the steering linkage where it passes through the transom. I'll get a better look at that situation this summer when I'm swimming around back there.
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Wanted to drop everyone a line this morning on my progress! The boat has been a great mini-project and is really coming together nicely.

As I mentioned earlier, I was having problems getting the engines to pull past about 2,000 RPM. I found some issues and was able to fix the problem with new coils and pertronix kits in the distributors. I also had one choke sticking on the starboard engine. Once all this was worked out and timing set, they are running much better now. Below is a video from this weekend - 2600 RPM on plane! It's great. Running right at 25mph.
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The genset needed some attention as well. My 6.5 Onan has the armature start and is the 'old school' design. After disassembly, I found that it was severely carboned up with both exhaust valves stuck open. After a thorough cleaning, new valves, gaskets, etc she runs perfectly. Had to replace a condenser for one of the AC brushes as well, but it was an easy fix. Now I just have to drop the little 420# jewel in the boat!
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Also have our new dock in place. It's been a big week!
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Very nice set up!
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That's not a dock, it's a boathouse. :D very nice setup.
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http://www.centuryperformance.com may be able to help with distributors. The made new Mallory yl's for me.
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Hey Joe welcome! Very neat, love the boat house! Could spend the rest of my life down there :shock: . I don't know a lot about Trojans yet but I think I can learn a lot from you, thanks for speaking up, dad moved to NW OKC 20 years ago, I learn to drive on the main stretch from Tulsa to OKC during a bad storm. Straight winds and flash flood made new under wear for me. My step sister used to own a catering business that handled the annual air shows. I don't get out there much but I do like it. Keep showing the pics for sure. That's a neat boat!!!
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assuming yuou have Crusader 454 engines, you should be getting to + - 4200 - 4400 RPM at WOT (wide open throttle)

if not - sumpin aint right.

distributor advance springs, props, dirty bottom, weight, or a combination of all..

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Thanks for the comments guys!!

I am loving the new dock! There is a 42' slip on each side with a sundeck in the middle for the Hobie Cat. Most of my nights are spent on the boat... even though I have a really nice bed just up the steps at the house.

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I haven't spun the engines up anymore than 2600 RPM and do the vast majority of cruising around 1750-1800. I do believe that they will spin up to 4k if needed though - I'm only about 1/3 throttle at 2600. Hopefully these motors will last me a while. I'm guessing they have about 800 hours.
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Zdek,

I've got a 1983 9M as well, but it came without genset or a/c. Maybe you can give me the layout of yours so I can determine if I'm able to retrofit them. Most photos I've seen of the genset show it directly between the engines, but that would be on top of my battery box.

BTW, I've always believed that the swim platform "extension" was solely to avoid making it a V-drive boat.


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Open 'em up, I wouldn't just assume they'll hit 4,000+. The worst thing you can do is baby them all the time, they need to run at WOT once in a while. This is the best check of the overall health of the engine.

If something breaks, so be it. I would rather have any weaknesses exposed on my own schedule.

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BobCT wrote:Open 'em up, I wouldn't just assume they'll hit 4,000+. The worst thing you can do is baby them all the time, they need to run at WOT once in a while. This is the best check of the overall health of the engine.

If something breaks, so be it. I would rather have any weaknesses exposed on my own schedule.

Bob
+1 on what Bob said.

I've spent far too much time with boaters who are worried they will "push" their motors too hard. These things are tanks and are meant to be able to run hard. I'm not suggesting WOT all the time...if they can't hit WOT, there's a problem...
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Most of this thread is from 2012 FWIW I hope the op has it fixed by now :D
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I think they call this a Necro-thread...risen from the dead.

Whoops.
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