Modern engine upgrades?
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Modern engine upgrades?
I still love my 1980 F28, but...maintaining these thirsty 305s gets me to wonder about the sense or even the possibility of replacing them with newer motors. Something like a pair of late model automotive 4.3l injected V6s for example. I'm sure I could get even more than my existing 228 hp from a newer V6 but not sure how to find out about joining up with the velvet drives and exhaust manifolds etc. Anyone have any recommendations or warnings?
Thanks,
Steve Barlow
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Re: Modern engine upgrades?
Fuel injected Chevy 350s would use less fuel and be a direct replacement. The Volvo 5.7GSi in my last boat burned 6 gph at 3000 rpm.
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If you want to up grade to a 4.3 EFI go with a marine 4.3 EFI or 305/350 EFI . The automotive EFI where not calibrated form marine used in some cases different sensors used or not used in marine . Its been done and they never run right .wetbuoy wrote:I still love my 1980 F28, but...maintaining these thirsty 305s gets me to wonder about the sense or even the possibility of replacing them with newer motors. Something like a pair of late model automotive 4.3l injected V6s for example. I'm sure I could get even more than my existing 228 hp from a newer V6 but not sure how to find out about joining up with the velvet drives and exhaust manifolds etc. Anyone have any recommendations or warnings?
Thanks,
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And any new engine sold as complete requires emission controls. Unless Trump already fired that branch of the EPA......
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Don't wanna derail, but jut have to say........ OOOOOO -- the first Trump shot I think I have seen on the forum yet! I was expecting one <bleep> of a firestorm leading up to the election, but eventually figured people were just too scared to say anything! (or the Moderator deleted a hundred posts a day???)P-Dogg wrote:And any new engine sold as complete requires emission controls. Unless Trump already fired that branch of the EPA......
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I just tell the truth man.....
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Re: Modern engine upgrades?
Good riddance EPA in my opinion. 

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Lets not start the fights now... or at least take it to Pontifications!larryeddington wrote:Good riddance EPA in my opinion.
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Re: Modern engine upgrades?
captainmaniac wrote:Don't wanna derail, but jut have to say........ OOOOOO -- the first Trump shot I think I have seen on the forum yet! I was expecting one <bleep> of a firestorm leading up to the election, but eventually figured people were just too scared to say anything! (or the Moderator deleted a hundred posts a day???)P-Dogg wrote:And any new engine sold as complete requires emission controls. Unless Trump already fired that branch of the EPA......
Only a few hundred

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Re: Modern engine upgrades?
Thanks for the inputs everybody. The 350s are out for sure. I thought of 4.3 only because a well known V6 might be more saleable in today's markets. Good point about EPA regulations though I likely wouldn't buy new ones. Will check the engine vendors for now. Thanks all, Captain Steve
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Why are 350s out ? they have the same foot print . As far as fuel burn at the same speed the 4.3 /5.0 (305)/5.7 (350) will all burn about the same amount of fuel .wetbuoy wrote:Thanks for the inputs everybody. The 350s are out for sure. I thought of 4.3 only because a well known V6 might be more saleable in today's markets. Good point about EPA regulations though I likely wouldn't buy new ones. Will check the engine vendors for now. Thanks all, Captain Steve
Lets say your single engine boat burns 10 gals a hour at 20 knots with a 4.3 the same boat with a 5.7 will burn about the same at 20 knots . There could be a slight difference ether way but it won't be much . This is assuming all have the same fuel system
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Re: Modern engine upgrades?
I have done about all the research on engines that can be done on a f32 and found the pcm zr6 which is a 6.0, 390 hp 490 ft lb combo at $12,000.00 with transmissions to be a perfect setup. It will run all out at 5200 rpm full gear and 300 gal of fuel 37 mph gps. I do not have fuel meters so I cannot tell you a true fuel consumption bu I ca tell you that we go out and ride all weekend on 50 gal, we try to run under 3000 rpm.
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How many hours/miles do you get out of the 50 gal ?
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Re: Modern engine upgrades?
I think if you put V6's in the boat your resale value will really suffer! I have a F28 now and the previous owner replaced the old Chrysler 318's with Crusaders 350's and they perform well
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