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Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:23 am
by 1967 seavoyager
Here's the pics of the boat. http://www.photobucket.com/f26

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:35 am
by summer storm
I am pretty sure that is a f25 and not a f26

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:00 pm
by EM63
Hey Doug - for me as newbie - could you please explain the differences :roll:
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Greetings - Heiner

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 6:35 pm
by myakka
Looks like an F26 to me.

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 6:40 pm
by jefflaw35
all I can say is that my sink and head is the same as here, all the F-26 I have seen have been opposite. looks just like my 25 all the way.....

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:21 pm
by summer storm
F25= wooden decks with wood framing. F26= fiberglass decks. Besides the F26 had a fiberglass helm console and the F25 had a wooden one.

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:09 pm
by myakka
My 1976 F-25 had fiberglass decks and a fiberglass console

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:14 pm
by jefflaw35
yea see, its hard to tell. 74 -25 mine has glass deck and wood helm face but glass dash. sometimes i think some of these boats were built to order with out records

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:26 pm
by summer storm
myakka wrote:My 1976 F-25 had fiberglass decks and a fiberglass console
Yes, your 25 is a different F25, there were 2 F25's but yours would never be mistaken for a F26. The boat in question has the lower cabin top and a L shape dinette layout and the bigger beam.

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:40 pm
by summer storm
jefflaw35 wrote:yea see, its hard to tell. 74 -25 mine has glass deck and wood helm face but glass dash. sometimes i think some of these boats were built to order with out records
Jeff, I meant the cockpit deck. Yours was built with wood deck frames and teak plywood with fake caulking. If it is now fiberglass then someone added it later. These boats are very hard to tell apart. They started with the F25 then lengthened it to 26 and added a flybridge, then discontinued it only to later bring it back as the F27 (bow pulpit) for the classic series. They also made a narrow beam F25 but the look is completely differerent with a much taller cabin and larger windows.

Still havent found one

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 11:57 pm
by ryanj1371
I still havent found one for sure. I have the few prospects but just not a winner yet...

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:47 am
by MattSC
summer storm wrote:F25= wooden decks with wood framing. F26= fiberglass decks. Besides the F26 had a fiberglass helm console and the F25 had a wooden one.
I have a 75 F-26, it originally had a teak deck with wood framing. It retains the original wooden helm console. There used to be another F-25 at my marina several years ago, interior wise and deck configuration were identical to my F-26. The main difference was with the hull. If you look at the picture of the transom of Jeff's F-25 it has an angle towards the top of the transom. My F-26 transom is curved without the angle on the top. Also the other F-25 had a small prop pocket and if I remember correctly a step in the hull, his boat did not have a Hull ID stamped in the transom, which probably means it was either a 71 or 72. We were propped and powered the same at the time, and he could cruise a little quicker than me.

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 10:24 pm
by summer storm
MattSC wrote:
summer storm wrote:F25= wooden decks with wood framing. F26= fiberglass decks. Besides the F26 had a fiberglass helm console and the F25 had a wooden one.
I have a 75 F-26, it originally had a teak deck with wood framing. It retains the original wooden helm console. There used to be another F-25 at my marina several years ago, interior wise and deck configuration were identical to my F-26. The main difference was with the hull. If you look at the picture of the transom of Jeff's F-25 it has an angle towards the top of the transom. My F-26 transom is curved without the angle on the top. Also the other F-25 had a small prop pocket and if I remember correctly a step in the hull, his boat did not have a Hull ID stamped in the transom, which probably means it was either a 71 or 72. We were propped and powered the same at the time, and he could cruise a little quicker than me.
Matt, I don't doubt your 26 has wood decks, you would know, but I am doing a ton of research for the Trojan book and all I find about the 261 (F26) points to fiberglass decks. Factory paperwork state standard fiberglass decks with optional teak. I always assumed that the teak would be added over the fiberglass and not replace it. I going to look into this more to find out when the switch was made. BTW, how many bow railing stantions do you have, 3 or 4 on each side?

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 7:29 pm
by MattSC
Hi Doug,
You definitely have made me curious as to when they did make the switch. I had always thought that it was 1977 or 1978, as I've see some F-26's through 1976 with teak decks. Another thing I've always been curious about is why they switched to the two piece windshield with the opening lower vent, not sure if it had something to do with the flybridge model. It's nice being able to open the whole windshield on a nice day. As for the bow stantions I have three.

Regarding my deck, I replaced it with a glass deck about 17 years ago. The original deck had some soft spots and must have been cleaned with an abrasive cleaner as most of the grain on the teak had lifted. It was framed mostly with oak, with the outer edges of the frame (port and starboard) being philippine mahogany. Hope it helps, look forward to learning anything you find out.

I attached two photos, one of my helm which is mostly original and the other with the transom so you can see the difference I was talking about. If you check Jeff's blog for the Rubber Guppy you'll definitely see the difference.

Matt

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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:05 pm
by ryanj1371
Would you like to sell it?

MattSC wrote:Hi Doug,
You definitely have made me curious as to when they did make the switch. I had always thought that it was 1977 or 1978, as I've see some F-26's through 1976 with teak decks. Another thing I've always been curious about is why they switched to the two piece windshield with the opening lower vent, not sure if it had something to do with the flybridge model. It's nice being able to open the whole windshield on a nice day. As for the bow stantions I have three.

Regarding my deck, I replaced it with a glass deck about 17 years ago. The original deck had some soft spots and must have been cleaned with an abrasive cleaner as most of the grain on the teak had lifted. It was framed mostly with oak, with the outer edges of the frame (port and starboard) being philippine mahogany. Hope it helps, look forward to learning anything you find out.

I attached two photos, one of my helm which is mostly original and the other with the transom so you can see the difference I was talking about. If you check Jeff's blog for the Rubber Guppy you'll definitely see the difference.

Matt

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