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Wooden Trojan Steering wheel

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 7:40 pm
by nautnmore
I have recently acquired a wooden steering wheel from a Trojan boat, and am trying to identify it. I hope someone can help me out.
It is a 6 spoke all wood wheel that is about 22 1/4" in daimeter.
The center hub is about 3 1/4" in diameter, and is chrome plated over a non-ferrous metal. The hub cover is held in place by 3 set screws, and has TROJAN, in raised capital letters against a rough background.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 5:37 am
by k9th
Welcome to the forum and if you have a photo of the wheel that would help us identify it for you. Most of the ones you describe came from a wooden Trojan but the photo will help nail it down.

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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:00 pm
by nautnmore
Thanks "Seadog" for the response.
I don't know how to import pictures to the forum, and so I have put pictures into my Flickr account. The link is http://www.flickr.com/photos/nauticalsandmore/

The wheel appears to have been refinished, and when the front was re - Urethaned it ran down to the back and was not cleaned up. Other than that it appears to be in Excellent condition.
Thanks

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:40 pm
by k9th
Those wheels are off of some of the 50's and 60's wooden models. They also came with the center casting with the name Trojan in script with the letters in relief rather than raised. I have one of those wheels myself.

I have seen many photos of older wooden models on here that have that wheel. It really is a neat wheel, and i am thinking about putting mine on my Tri-cabin.

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:58 pm
by captainmaniac
Something like this I assume? This one is off a 1969 28' Trojan Sea Skiff.

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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 6:30 pm
by gumper
My 30' 1970 SeaRaider has the same wheel.
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 7:35 pm
by k9th
This is what my wooden wheel looks like. Notice the different center casting.

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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:44 pm
by turtlem1969
I don't care what any body else thinks, but those wheels look a whole lot better then the plain round ss wheel on both of mine, color me green.

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 11:08 am
by captainmaniac
k9th - that center hub looks like early 60s I think.

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 12:37 pm
by k9th
I am going to try to fit it onto my '79 Tri-cabin. I like its looks better than the chrome wheel that is there now.

Bought it on ebay for $50 about a year ago and initially wanted to just hang it on the wall in my office at home but liked it so well I am going to try to make it work on SeaDog.

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 3:53 pm
by captainmaniac
Measure the hub carefully. I had to have some machining done before I could install the wooden wheel on mine. I have the original Syten hydraulic system, and the steering shaft is tapered. I forget the actual numbers (have them at home) but the shaft tapers down from something like 7/8" to 3/4". The hub on the wheel had a different taper (something like 3/4" down to 5/8"). Not "plug and play".

So I was faced with either machinging the wheel to grind it out, pulling the steering pump and having its shaffed machined down, or designing a custom 'converter' and having a piece of aluminum custom-machined. Didn't want to mess with the wheel (too valuable to me to let anyone get near it with a grinder and potentially mess it up) and figured the steering pump wouldn't survive removel / machining / reassembly, so I went for the custom hub converter. It fits over the existing Syten shaft taper and provides a new shaft custom cut to fit the taper on the wheel.

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 4:18 pm
by k9th
Thanks for the heads up captain. I plan to do a thorough job of making sure it matches and fits well - and, like you - have no desire to let anyone near the wooden wheel.

I planned to make the switch next spring and take this winter to get any mods done that are needed.

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 8:09 pm
by captainmaniac
Found my drawings for the hub adapter... Syten steering shaft was 1" taper down to 3/4", steering wheel hub was 3/4" down to 11/16".

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 8:47 pm
by k9th
captainmaniac wrote:Found my drawings for the hub adapter... Syten steering shaft was 1" taper down to 3/4", steering wheel hub was 3/4" down to 11/16".
I may ask for a copy if mine is the same - that OK?

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:29 am
by larglo
My goodness,,,,those are beautiful ship's wheels!

nautnmore, were you considering, selling your wheel?


Larry