roll and tip painting

trojanmanXS · Post by **trojanmanXS** » Fri Mar 09, 2012 8:52 pm

is it really as easy as it looks here ?
theres quite a shine on his finished product , wouldnt the brush leave marks ?
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LandVF36 · Post by **LandVF36** » Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:23 pm

yes, its that easy. First, the roller is hard like a ink roller. If your prep is that flat, it really rolls on that easy. Next, you need to follow the thinning instructions EXACTLY as directed on the product documents for the application temperature. If the paint is too thick, it will look dimply, too thin an you have to do extra coats. Also, when I've done it, I not applied nearly the pressure he was with the brush, its more of a feather touch just to pop all the bubbles left from the roller. After using a brush for 4 x 5 sections, I've tossed the brush and grabbed another one. The cheap natural hair "chip" brushes that cost $0.99 at the hardware store work great. Just make sure the brush them up good and pull out all the loose hairs before you tip.

gumper · Post by **gumper** » Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:23 pm

The white you see was painted three years ago. It was done by roll and tip method. No brush marks and better yet no orange pell effect that you get from spraying. There is a very nice Riva beside my boat in storage. It is varnished but done the same way.

prowlersfish · Post by **prowlersfish** » Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:28 pm

You can get a really nice paint job using this method . I may paint my topsides if I keep the boat .I will use the roll and tip method .

jimbo36 · Post by **jimbo36** » Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:29 pm

I have done the roll and tip several times with great results. I tip off with a 4" cheap foam brush and change them out often.

jefflaw35 · Post by **jefflaw35** » Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:29 pm

yea TMAn it flows out, looks great. tipping just kills the roller spots and the paint flows like a river.

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:39 pm

It's easy once you get the feel for it. This wont' take long. When I did mine, I used a foam brush for tipping and it left no marks. I held the brush at about 30Â° to the surface and pulled it with only enough pressure to keep it in contact with the surface. It knocked down the bubbles from the roller (West System thin foam roller) and removed the roller marks leaving no brush marks.

IMO the trick was to have one person rolling the paint on and one following directly behind tipping. Don't go over it repeatedly (tipping), one or two strokes will do. The paint will lay down all on its own within a couple of minutes after tipping.

Don't forget, it all starts with proper prep of the hull.

Hope this helps

jefflaw35 · Post by **jefflaw35** » Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:43 pm

Paul wrote:It's easy once you get the feel for it. This wont' take long. When I did mine, I used a foam brush for tipping and it left no marks. I held the brush at about 30Â° to the surface and pulled it with only enough pressure to keep it in contact with the surface. It knocked down the bubbles from the roller (West System thin foam roller) and removed the roller marks leaving no brush marks.

IMO the trick was to have one person rolling the paint on and one following directly behind tipping. Don't go over it repeatedly (tipping), one or two strokes will do. The paint will lay down all on its own within a couple of minutes after tipping.

Don't forget, it all starts with proper prep of the hull.

Hope this helps

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Commissionpoint · Post by **Commissionpoint** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:15 am

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Re the comment on orange peel while spraying: That doesn't happen if you know how to spray, have good equipment, and follow the application instructions. Rolling it on and tipping it out with a brush takes a bit of getting used to in order to get satisfactory results, and even at that the results are only so good. I suppose it all depends on if the vessel in question is a keeper or not.

alexander38 · Post by **alexander38** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:06 am

Commissionpoint wrote:
jefflaw35 wrote: This site would be great if it had a "LIKE' button

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unnecessary shot..

paint job looks great, I'm getting courage from all that I've seen from others that I'll be able to do it with some practice ...

alexander38 · Post by **alexander38** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:06 am

Commissionpoint wrote:
jefflaw35 wrote: This site would be great if it had a "LIKE' button

Yeh but that would mean ditching phpbb and getting something like v-bulletin. Site might be worth supporting financially at that point.

unnecessary shot..

paint job looks great, I'm getting courage from all that I've seen from others that I'll be able to do it with some practice ...

prowlersfish · Post by **prowlersfish** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:35 am

Having done a few smaller boats , the methed works well . ( still to chicken to change my hull color )

I do do offer a small tip , do the transom first that way if something goes wrong ( as your learning ) its a smaller area to redo . and if a nat flys in to your tacky paint , let it go and walk away ,other wise you will turn a very small issue in to a big one ,Don't ask how I know

Lawman · Post by **Lawman** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:42 am

Are stress cracks (on bow) hard to fix before painting?

jefflaw35 · Post by **jefflaw35** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:44 am

Lawman wrote:Are stress cracks (on bow) hard to fix before painting?

im going on my 20th year of working cars and I only know one true way to fix a stress crack without it coming back. I have tried just digging them out lightly and filling with resin but they come back quickly. My boat is cracked from end to end, I see alot of grinding and reglassing in my future. pretty ugly job. I have one major spot on my haul that I am going to fix today I will show you my procedure pics this evening

Big D · Post by **Big D** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 9:05 am

prowlersfish wrote:...I do do offer a small tip , do the transom first that way if something goes wrong ( as your learning ) its a smaller area to redo . and if a nat flys in to your tacky paint , let it go and walk away ,other wise you will turn a very small issue in to a big one ,Don't ask how I know

You have done this before Paul. Those are two very good points, and those of us that have done this before can deffinitely relate. Can't stress enough the part about walking away.