Wiring Simplified

This forum is for comments and the exchange of information relating to Trojan Boats and boating. Please do not post used parts or boats For Sale in this area. For general, non-boating topics please use our "General Discussions" section.

Note: Negative or inflammatory postings will not be tolerated.

Moderators: BeaconMarineBob, Moderator, BeaconMarineDon

Post Reply
User avatar
Stripermann2
Ultimate User
Posts: 3027
Joined: Fri Jan 19, 2007 9:11 am
Location: Solomon's Island, MD

Wiring Simplified

Post by Stripermann2 »

For the electrical and wiring phobics out there. This may help...:-) Best viewed maximized.

http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/us ... mail011713
Jamie


1985 F-32 270 Crusaders
1988 Sea Ray 23 350 Merc.
Trojan. Enjoy the ride...

-I don't wanna hear anyone whine...Anymore!
-You might get there before me, but you still have to wait for me, for the fun to start!
User avatar
Big D
Ultimate User
Posts: 2876
Joined: Sat May 01, 2010 10:39 pm
Location: Ontario, Canada

Post by Big D »

That's a great find for the basics Jamie. Hopefully that will help explain why we keep stressing the need to determine the load and the TOTAL length of the cirduit. Did you catch what was missing in his circuit diagram? There are very few exceptions but circuits need to include a protection device like a fuse, breaker, etc. Boy would I love to have that building.
She was a 1969 36 ft wooden beauty with big blue 440s that we'll miss forever.
And thanks to the gang, 2012 Trojan Boater Of The Year
User avatar
Stripermann2
Ultimate User
Posts: 3027
Joined: Fri Jan 19, 2007 9:11 am
Location: Solomon's Island, MD

Post by Stripermann2 »

I really wasn't paying attention or watch the whole video. Just thought I'd pass it along as there are some who may find wiring intimidating.

Yes indeed, that is one very NICE building! :) :)
Jamie


1985 F-32 270 Crusaders
1988 Sea Ray 23 350 Merc.
Trojan. Enjoy the ride...

-I don't wanna hear anyone whine...Anymore!
-You might get there before me, but you still have to wait for me, for the fun to start!
User avatar
alexander38
Ultimate User
Posts: 3179
Joined: Sat Sep 27, 2008 6:48 am

Post by alexander38 »

How many of us wish the P.O. of our boats had seen that... :?
Carver 3607 ACMY 454's Merc's
10' Dinghy 6hp Merc.
La Dolce Vita
Let's hit the water !

http://s852.beta.photobucket.com/user/t ... 8/library/
User avatar
Big D
Ultimate User
Posts: 2876
Joined: Sat May 01, 2010 10:39 pm
Location: Ontario, Canada

Post by Big D »

alexander38 wrote:How many of us wish the P.O. of our boats had seen that... :?
Ya no kidding eh Tony. Some of the stuff I see just boggles my mind. I always think of it like this; How many people do their own wiring in their house or car? And if they do and get it wrong, and the house or car catch fire, chances are you can walk out the front door or pull over and get out of the car. If your boat catches on fire when you're offshore with your family, you're in a world of hurt unless you have a dinghy or something, and you better get into it fast. Yet people think nothing of McGyvering their on-board electrical. They just don't seem to put "fire" and "2 miles offshore" together in their thought process. I don't get it. The "what if offshore" should be considered in everything you do to a boat.
She was a 1969 36 ft wooden beauty with big blue 440s that we'll miss forever.
And thanks to the gang, 2012 Trojan Boater Of The Year
User avatar
gettaway
Active User
Posts: 1142
Joined: Mon Feb 15, 2010 1:48 pm
Location: Coronado CA

Post by gettaway »

Big D wrote:
alexander38 wrote:How many of us wish the P.O. of our boats had seen that... :?
Ya no kidding eh Tony. Some of the stuff I see just boggles my mind. I always think of it like this; How many people do their own wiring in their house or car? And if they do and get it wrong, and the house or car catch fire, chances are you can walk out the front door or pull over and get out of the car. If your boat catches on fire when you're offshore with your family, you're in a world of hurt unless you have a dinghy or something, and you better get into it fast. Yet people think nothing of McGyvering their on-board electrical. They just don't seem to put "fire" and "2 miles offshore" together in their thought process. I don't get it. The "what if offshore" should be considered in everything you do to a boat.
++++10000000
1984 Silverton 37C
Silver Lining
Scott
User avatar
prowlersfish
2025 Gold Support
2025 Gold Support
Posts: 12725
Joined: Sat Nov 05, 2005 6:56 pm
Location: Lower Chesapeake Bay ,Va

Post by prowlersfish »

Agreed
Boating is good for the soul
77/78 TROJAN F36 Conv.
6BTA Cummins diesels
Life is to short for a ugly boat :D
larryeddington
Ultimate User
Posts: 1876
Joined: Mon Sep 28, 2009 5:08 pm
Location: Canton, TX Boat on TEXOMA

Post by larryeddington »

An easy to remember how to get any one of Ohms law three values is by the diagram of:

Voltages over Resistance and Current I cannot draw it here but there is a bar under voltage and a verticle bar between Resistance and Current.

It works like this, to get value for resistance divide volts by Current. To get volts multiply resistance | current. This little diagram is a no brainer and I use it every time I work with Ohms law.

Draw a circle, a line dividing top half and bottom half and a verticle line dividing the bottom half, Volts in top half, current and resistance on either side of bottom half line. Ergo all pieces are in the proper place for calculating. :)
Larry Eddington
1984 F-36 Tri Cabin "The Phoenix II"
1978 F-28 "The Phoenix"
Fish Master 2350 Bay Boat
9.5' Dink
User avatar
Big D
Ultimate User
Posts: 2876
Joined: Sat May 01, 2010 10:39 pm
Location: Ontario, Canada

Post by Big D »

larryeddington wrote:An easy to remember how to get any one of Ohms law three values is by the diagram of:

Voltages over Resistance and Current I cannot draw it here but there is a bar under voltage and a verticle bar between Resistance and Current.

It works like this, to get value for resistance divide volts by Current. To get volts multiply resistance | current. This little diagram is a no brainer and I use it every time I work with Ohms law.

Draw a circle, a line dividing top half and bottom half and a verticle line dividing the bottom half, Volts in top half, current and resistance on either side of bottom half line. Ergo all pieces are in the proper place for calculating. :)
Here's a diagram at this link Larry: Cover the item you're trying to figure out and use the other two to calculate the answer. The advanced wheel lower in the page is the one I use as it allows to calculate with power/wattage.
http://www.hamuniverse.com/ohmslaw.html

Here's a good one of the advanced wheel with written formulas as well:
http://www.the12volt.com/ohm/ohmslaw.asp
She was a 1969 36 ft wooden beauty with big blue 440s that we'll miss forever.
And thanks to the gang, 2012 Trojan Boater Of The Year
larryeddington
Ultimate User
Posts: 1876
Joined: Mon Sep 28, 2009 5:08 pm
Location: Canton, TX Boat on TEXOMA

Post by larryeddington »

yep that is it, not trying to figure out as I understand it but the simple diagram is what taught it to me and can be very helpful to others.

did not want to explain power, wattage, amps but it is simple as well.


Thx Big D. :)
Larry Eddington
1984 F-36 Tri Cabin "The Phoenix II"
1978 F-28 "The Phoenix"
Fish Master 2350 Bay Boat
9.5' Dink
User avatar
Big D
Ultimate User
Posts: 2876
Joined: Sat May 01, 2010 10:39 pm
Location: Ontario, Canada

Post by Big D »

larryeddington wrote:....the simple diagram is what taught it to me....
Me too Larry. Sure helps - no guess work. If one can just remember that picture, you can do a lot. I'm sure you understand the wattage thing but for the benefit of others, the wattage calculation makes things a little easy also, ie; rather than trying to figure out or measure how much current a circuit has, just count all the 10 watt lights for example in the cabin that are on that circuit and it gives you the wattage of the circuit. From there, you can get current. Once you know that and the length of circuit, you'll know the size of wire you need to build the circuit or if an existing circuit can handle more lights and how many based on existing wire size.
She was a 1969 36 ft wooden beauty with big blue 440s that we'll miss forever.
And thanks to the gang, 2012 Trojan Boater Of The Year
larryeddington
Ultimate User
Posts: 1876
Joined: Mon Sep 28, 2009 5:08 pm
Location: Canton, TX Boat on TEXOMA

Post by larryeddington »

Yep got that as well W=V*A

learned them a long time ago and has been verhy helpful over the years, IMO everyone should learn them.
Larry Eddington
1984 F-36 Tri Cabin "The Phoenix II"
1978 F-28 "The Phoenix"
Fish Master 2350 Bay Boat
9.5' Dink
Post Reply