rudder removal

jefflaw35 · Post by **jefflaw35** » Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:13 pm

this thing is a beast. I want it all out. is rudder and shaft one peice? all is loose. maybe corrosion keeping it locked up

larryeddington · Post by **larryeddington** » Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:25 pm

I have not removed one but it has a stuffing box similiar to the shaft one, only no rubber hose. Pull the tiller arm remove packing nut and packing, IMO it should drop out.

Bubbabuda · Post by **Bubbabuda** » Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:35 pm

Make sure there are no burrs where the tiller arm mounts on the shaft. After packing nut is removed, it should drop out. If you tap on the top as a last resort, stay off the edge, brass is soft.

jefflaw35 · Post by **jefflaw35** » Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:43 pm

There is a pin in the upper collar we cant get out. Shes not dropping at all. Seems to be a stainless roll pin thro the brass shaft

Bubbabuda · Post by **Bubbabuda** » Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:30 pm

yea, that has to come out. mine came out in two pieces.

Bubbabuda · Post by **Bubbabuda** » Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:33 pm

you might want to take some emory paper to the shaft to clean any corrosion and a squirt of wd-40.

Bubbabuda · Post by **Bubbabuda** » Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:38 pm

if all else fails, talk dirty to her......

jefflaw35 · Post by **jefflaw35** » Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:50 pm

i called her wh**e, a white trash$#$%## but still... maybe tomorow night LOL drilling through stainless sux!

larryeddington · Post by **larryeddington** » Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:04 pm

You probably tried but you you might grind a flat on both sides so you would have a clean surface to use a drift punch on also heat could be applied then punch it. If you gonna try and drill stainless get you some cobalt bits. I have a set and they cut stainless like hot butter.

Nancy · Post by **Nancy** » Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:56 pm

Our F32 had a roll pin just as you describe. It was a bear to get out. I think John used a punch. And the pin broke. I'll ask him tomorrow if he remembers the details. I remember it was a huge hassle getting a new roll pin. And we didn't want the rudder to fall out, so that was a pita too.

Nancy · Post by **Nancy** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:59 am

OK, just so you know, when I asked John if he remembered this project, he said, "That @#$%^& thing>?!" So yes. Couple of key points:

Unless you have a photographic memory, mark the orientation of the rudder post in the bushing, both vertically and horizontally. The hole is not centered in either plane. (This is a hindsight recommendation...)

Use a punch to remove the roll pin - it must the the exact size. It will almost look too big for the hole. If you use the punch that you think is the right size, the roll pin will break. We know this from experience.

The pin doesn't slide easily - there's lots of strain and weight on it. You may want to support the rudder from below and jack it up very slightly.

"Don't be shy with the hammer! Beat the crap out of it!" Try hammering from both sides.

Hope this helps. Good luck!

larryeddington · Post by **larryeddington** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:22 pm

Just a note, backup the side not being struck with a heavy hammer or piece of steel, which you probably have thought of but just a tip.

jefflaw35 · Post by **jefflaw35** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:44 pm

F#%%G p$&%#% J^@ (#*( F&^#$%^ A ^^%#$, GRRRRRRRRR THIS IS UNREAL!!! Ive done it all! jacked the rudder for pressure, grinded edges, lubed with everything you can buy including KY jelly

. 5 cobolt bits, exact size punch, smaller punch, my poor knuckels punch, Torch till the boat cought on fire, punched with back support, drilled while hot with lube. drilled while cold with no lube and lube. 3 hours worth of attempts and im 1/4 of an inch in maybe. this has to be the most over kill design I have ever seen besides a wheel lock lug key that the owner threw the key away to! and yes i maked the spots to

jefflaw35 · Post by **jefflaw35** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:11 pm

Bubbabuda wrote:if all else fails, talk dirty to her......

you would not beleave how I spoke to her tonight, even had the wiffy try to butter her up!!! NOPE no LOVE!

rooferdave · Post by **rooferdave** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:09 am

something is not right, I had a leak around my rudders and against my better judgement we pulled both mine the day before launch, I must admit the topic of yours came up as we were doing it, but we had them both out and back in less than an hour, mine is a 76 trifly