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todd brinkerhoff · Post by **todd brinkerhoff** » Tue Nov 09, 2010 7:58 pm

32 knots...he he!!!!

With the radar arch gone, there's now room for a nice hardtop!!

Audrey II · Post by **Audrey II** » Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:42 pm

For an 85 it's a great looking boat. I agree about the colors being dated but we can't have everything.
Did anyone see any mention of canvas or is assumed shot or none existent?

alexander38 · Post by **alexander38** » Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:11 pm

Ok you guys are killing.me with the Carver cracks. Rick you need a trawler good fuel burn and ez to work on . A gaser will break your bank. And the older over seas ones are coming down in price

Audrey II · Post by **Audrey II** » Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:11 pm

The Carver remark I assume is do to the misprint in the ad claiming to be a 2011 instead of 1985. I don't take it personally when someone knocks Carver not that this was a knock.

alexander38 · Post by **alexander38** » Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:41 pm

All in good fun Dave.

RWS · Post by **RWS** » Wed Nov 10, 2010 5:53 am

Rick's needs and budget simply are not compatible.

RWS

prowlersfish · Post by **prowlersfish** » Wed Nov 10, 2010 6:40 am

RWS wrote:Rick's needs and busget simply are not compatible.

RWS

Agree, but I would say his wants don't fit his budget and his wants and larger then his needs . ( but we all are that way ) he should be looking in the under 30 range but still can be hard to find a turn key in his price range. But at least the fuel burn will be were he wants it .

Audrey II · Post by **Audrey II** » Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:24 am

Rick please don't take this as if we are picking on you because this is not the intent or a least not mine. Again my concern is you are approaching this budget in an odd way if you are trying to justify a boat by the fact it gets 1 mpg and you are guesstimating how many miles you plan to travel next year and estimated cost of fuel. If the budget is going to be this tight you are going to be disappointed. There are too many variables in boating, how much is in the budget for unexpected repairs. What happens if the price of fuel goes up a dollar a gallon like it did two years ago.
If you are looking at used boats in any price range you have to expect repairs, it's great that you are handy and can do much or the work yourself but you still need to buy the parts. The first year I owned my 30' I blow a motor and the genny ingested water I spent about 8k in repairs. This year I spent about 30k all said. Boating is very hard to live on a budget. If you find a way to make it work for you I think that's great.

I would love to here the details of how you break down this budget. Something tells me there are a lot of holes and the budget wont float.

RWS · Post by **RWS** » Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:04 am

No harm intended, He sent me a couple of PM's, requesting lots of info which I provided.

I asked how much boating experience he has and received no reply yet.

Fuel economy is an important consideration in the overall costs for an annual budget, howevert it should not be the overriding consideration, especially considering his anticipated initial outlay cost.

Throw a rod through the block the first time out and then see what happens to your budget.

We call that CONTINGENCIES.

The other thing to consider is that in almost all cases any boat that is for sale, especially ones that have been on the market for some time, or a repo, it's safe to say that those bvessels have not received the kind of maintenance, repair and upkeep that they really should.

How about replacing mainfolds/risers/elbows on a pair of 454's?

The HVAC blows out the evaporator or compressor?

The genny ingests water?

What would any one of those things do to your fuel budget?

RWS

alexander38 · Post by **alexander38** » Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:13 am

RWS hit the nail dead on. Just an up date to my gen set this yr to all electronic ignition and a carb gasket set plus gas pump was almost 1k, hobby/lifestyle cost real money.

RWS · Post by **RWS** » Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:21 am

REalistically, we're not looking at new boats with all new equipment, but boats well over 20 years old.

Depreciation costs are down, maintenance and repair costs are up.

RWS

ronski · Post by **ronski** » Sat Nov 27, 2010 2:01 pm

I have a 11 meter Trojan Iternational and the stringers are solid fiberglass They look like steel I beams. I have the 1990 model. You will not go wrong with this boat.

prowlersfish · Post by **prowlersfish** » Sat Nov 27, 2010 10:35 pm

ronski wrote:I have a 11 meter Trojan Iternational and the stringers are solid fiberglass They look like steel I beams. I have the 1990 model. You will not go wrong with this boat.

"you can see you are buying a boat for between 10 to 20 thousand less than comparable boats so we have priced her aggressively for a quick sale "

thats cuze it need 10-20 grand of work . He can go wrong as its way over his buget

foofer b · Post by **foofer b** » Sat Nov 27, 2010 11:30 pm

I never cease to be amazed at the knowledge and expertise of the members of this forum. Having read thru this entire post, I am awed at the insight and experience here on the forum. You guys rock.

Allen Sr · Post by **Allen Sr** » Sun Nov 28, 2010 7:31 am

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RWS hit the nail dead on. Just an up date to my gen set this yr to all electronic ignition and a carb gasket set plus gas pump was almost 1k, hobby/lifestyle cost real money.

Tony, what kind of genset do you have? I've been looking to change mine over to electronic ignition and it seems no body makes the parts any more. I have the MCCK 6.5 Onan